The Easiest Way to Instantly 3x Your Referrals

web design
Marketing Leaders
Communication
May 22, 2025

Summary

If you’ve ever wondered how to actually build a referral network that drives long-term business—this episode breaks it down.

Frank Agin didn’t just start a networking group. He acquired a small, under-the-radar organization and transformed it into a nationwide network of 140+ chapters and 1,500+ members by focusing on one thing: giving.

In this episode of Marketing by Design, we explore Frank’s approach to networking, why most elevator pitches fall flat, and the mindset shift that helps small business owners create relationships that compound over time.

If you’re a marketer, founder, or local business owner looking to turn real connections into real revenue, this one’s for you.

Key Takeaways

How to Network for Long-Term Growth

Frank explains why relationships grow more like trees than trends—and how to play the long game in business development.

Why You Need More Than One Elevator Pitch

The best 30-second commercials aren’t about what you do. They’re about when people need you. Frank shares how to craft “Velcro moments” that make people remember your value.

Relationship Marketing Is Scalable

You can’t scale cold calls—but you can scale relationships. Frank shares how to stay top-of-mind with a simple five-minute favor strategy.

The Power of Weekly Habit

Whether you’re a marketing team or solo founder, consistency in showing up (even when ROI feels invisible) is what makes referral networks actually work.

Timestamp Highlights

  • 00:00 – How Andy found AmSpirit through a design community
  • 02:36 – Frank’s early story and acquisition of AmSpirit
  • 06:01 – Rebranding and growth strategy
  • 09:50 – “Don’t tell me what you do—tell me when you do it”
  • 14:54 – AmSpirit’s core value: Give to get
  • 16:22 – The anthropology story that explains human trust
  • 23:55 – Real-world member success stories
  • 28:07 – How networking becomes scalable over time
  • 31:21 – Frank’s practical tips to maintain relationships
  • 35:47 – How to join a chapter near you

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MMG Design is a web design and content-first marketing agency working with B2B founders and marketing teams to drive pipeline through their digital presence.

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